To get an idea on how Horde 5 will look like: click the link or the image of this post.
Why does Horde 5 get a face lift? Simply because the current UI was mentioned often enough as an issue by many Horde users. And since the Horde 4 release had a very technical focus the switch from Horde 3 to Horde 4 last year did not help - it even degraded consistency between the applications. At the same time the competition does not sleep and there are more and more large installations that offer their user base two different webmails - one of them being Horde for the power users that feel they need a lot of features but that care less about the UI. Time to get our act together.
So what is the primary target of the redesign? First and foremost we want to unify the main user interfaces. At the moment we have the static application views, the dynamic webmailer, and the dynamic calender as the core parts. All looked somewhat different. These are the elements that we wish to give a consistent look. The special views such as the minimal webmailer or the smartphone UI will remain untouched.
We also hope the new design looks somewhat fresher than what we had before but please keep in mind that we are oriented towards people that use the interface for their daily work. We do not aim for a UI that looks like the last hype. It should be functional instead.
The Horde LLC has been the driving factor behind the redesign. At least financially. A subset of the Horde core developers started the LLC a while back as a contact point for people that want to pay for Horde support or feature development. A part of the money that such contracts pay goes to the developers dealing with the particular customer request. But another part of the money remains within the LLC. The idea is to use the latter to drive features that we consider to be important for Horde and its community. The redesign is the first project that has been financed this way. The Horde team tried finding designers interested in contributing to an Open Source project several times before. This was unsuccessful however and paying a designer for the work remained the only reasonable alternative.
We contracted No agency for the design. After several rounds of communication between them and all Horde developers we managed to end up with the draft displayed above. This has been converted to HTML and CSS this week and will be hammered into code during the next week by Jan Schneider. We do hope to present you with an alpha of Horde 5 - including the draft of the new design - on the 22nd May of 2012.
Feedback and comments - as usual - are welcome!
How does the main bar decide which apps go into "other" and which are displayed as dropdowns when there is a larger number of items, like a groupware+dev tools installation.
ReplyDeleteThis has not yet been decided. This is currently a design draft and the functionality will follow during the next weeks.
ReplyDeleteTo me it would look more consistent, if you placed the buttons which provide a functionality concerning only the currently selected mail (forward, reply...) in the preview pane or mail reading window and not above the list of mails. look perhaps at current versions of thunderbird. keep up the good work! best regards!
ReplyDeletePlacing the buttons in the preview area may work in the mailer. But we want to have this bar of "action buttons" in each component (calendar, addressbook, tasks etc.).
ReplyDeletePlacing them in a consistent place rather them allowing them to jump seems to be the better choice.
Context-sensitive sub-menus might be helpful just under the "E-Mail, Contacts, Calendar" buttons. I added this to Horde years ago for a corporate mailer (circa 2003-4) and it worked well for the otherwise easily confused users. - I'm excited by the prospect of a new interface for 5. Roundcube WebMail works but is sorely lacking in functionality and the Horde 3 framework was unworkable for my needs.
ReplyDeleteMany thanks.
Thanks for your feedback! Context-sensitive sub-menus for the top navigation bar will happen.
ReplyDeleteFinally! I'm very excited about the user interface overhaul! We had Horde as a installed base around for quite some time, but continued to look at other groupware solutions because of the antiquated design (Horde 4 made some steps in the right direction, but, as you already mentioned, it's very inconsistent and cannot hide the old-fashioned heritage) and serious usability flaws.
ReplyDeleteHowever, we never found a groupware as functional as Horde. So we kinda felt stuck with horde for technical and ideological (OSS!) reasons, but they are getting more and more difficult to communicate to users as users become more demanding in regard to visual appearance and - yes - "coolness".
A modern, professional layout - the mockup looks very promising - would finally make Horde not only the most advanced groupware around, but also a groupware being visually on-par with the many commercial alternatives out there.
Keep on going!
Thanks! You summed up everything we aim for ... So lets hope we deliver ;) Though Jan is currently busy embedding the HTML + CSS the designers delivered into code. So I'm very optimistic.
DeleteHas the theme been published?
ReplyDeleteWe are currently working on the Horde 5 release. It will be there soon.
DeleteHi Gunnar, what about some more preview pictures of the new UI? THX
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